Je to celé jen o náhodě nebo ne? Protože se mi furt stává to, že když odevzdám vzácnější item... tak mi ho skoro vždy vezme, na rozdíl od běžných itemů. (Nejvíce se mi to děje teď, co mám zručku víc jak G1)
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Ahoj chtěl bych se zeptat jak funguje systém odevzdávání itemů u Makamita pro zručnost.
Je to celé jen o náhodě nebo ne? Protože se mi furt stává to, že když odevzdám vzácnější item... tak mi ho skoro vždy vezme, na rozdíl od běžných itemů. (Nejvíce se mi to děje teď, co mám zručku víc jak G1)

Je to celé jen o náhodě nebo ne? Protože se mi furt stává to, že když odevzdám vzácnější item... tak mi ho skoro vždy vezme, na rozdíl od běžných itemů. (Nejvíce se mi to děje teď, co mám zručku víc jak G1)
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Re: Zručnost
Ahoj, pro výpočet % na úspěšné odevzdání předmětu je tu tabulka od hráče Itako. Jestli ale mluví stoprocentně pravdu, to můžeme jen spekulovat.
Itako píše:Zručnosť:
Stupeň zručnosti 1.item 2.item 3.item 4.item 5.item 6.item 7.item 8.item 9.item 10.item 11.item 12.item 13.item 14.item 15.item 16.item 17.item 18.item 19.item 20.item 21.item 22.item 23.item 24.item 25.item 26.item 27.item 28.item 29.item 30.item 31.item 32.item 33.item 34.item 35.item 36.item 37.item 38.item 39.item 40.item G10 2,5% 5% 7,5% 10% 12,5% 15% 17,5% 20% 22,5% 25% 27,5% 30% 32,5% 35% 37,5% 40% 42,5% 45% 47,5% 50% 52,5% 55% 57,5% 60% 62,5% 65% 67,5% 70% 72,5% 75% 77,5% 80% 82,5% 85% 87,5% 90% 92,5% 95% 97,5% 100% G9 2,564% 5,128% 7,692% 10,256% 12,821% 15,385% 17,949% 20,513% 23,077% 25,641% 28,205% 30,769% 33,3% 35,897% 38,462% 41,026% 43,59% 46,154% 48,718% 51,282% 53,846% 56,41% 58,974% 61,538% 64,103% 66,667% 69,231% 71,795% 74,359% 76,923% 79,487% 82,051% 84,615% 87,179% 89,744% 92,308% 94,872% 97,436% 100% G8 2,632% 5,263% 7,895% 10,526% 13,158% 15,789% 18,421% 21,053% 23,684% 26,316% 28,947% 31,579% 34,211% 36,842% 39,474% 42,105% 44,737% 47,368% 50% 52,632% 55,263% 57,895% 60,526% 63,158% 65,789% 68,421% 71,053% 73,684% 76,316% 78,947% 81,579% 84,211% 86,842% 89,474% 92,105% 94,737% 97,368% 100% G7 2,703% 5,405% 8,108% 10,811% 13,514% 16,216% 18,919% 21,622% 24,324% 27,027% 29,730% 32,432% 35,135% 37,838% 40,541% 43,243% 45,946% 48,649% 51,351% 54,054% 56,757% 59,459% 62,162% 64,865% 67,568% 70,270% 72,973% 75,676% 78,378% 81,081% 83,784% 86,486% 89,189% 91,892% 94,595% 97,297% 100% G6 2,778% 5,556% 8,333% 11,111% 13,889% 16,667% 19,444% 22,222% 25% 27,778% 30,556% 33,333% 36,111% 38,889% 41,667% 44,444% 47,222% 50% 52,778% 55,556% 58,333% 61,111% 63,889% 66,667% 69,444% 72,222% 75% 77,778% 80,556% 83,333% 86,111% 88,889% 91,667% 94,444% 97,222% 100% G5 2,857% 5,714% 8,571% 11,429% 14,286% 17,143% 20% 22,857% 25,714% 28,571% 31,429% 34,286% 37,143% 40% 42,857% 45,714% 48,571% 51,429% 54,286% 57,143% 60% 62,857% 65,714% 68,571% 71,429% 74,286% 77,143% 80% 82,857% 85,714% 88,571% 91,429% 94,286% 97,143% 100% G4 2,941% 5,882% 8,824% 11,765% 14,706% 17,647% 20,588% 23,529% 26,471% 29,412% 32,353% 35,294% 38,235% 41,176% 44,118% 47,059% 50% 52,941% 55,882% 58,824% 61,765% 64,706% 67,647% 70,588% 73,529% 76,471% 79,412% 82,353% 85,294% 88,235% 91,176% 94,118% 97,059% 100% G3 3,030% 6,061% 9,091% 12,121% 15,152% 18,182% 21,212% 24,242% 27,273% 30,303% 33,333% 36,364% 39,394% 42,424% 45,455% 48,485% 51,515% 54,545% 57,576% 60,606% 63,636% 66,667% 69,697% 72,727% 75,758% 78,788% 81,818% 84,848% 87,879% 90,909% 93,939% 96,970% 100% G2 3,125% 6,25% 9,375% 12,5% 15,625% 18,75% 21,875% 25% 28,125% 31,25% 34,375% 37,5% 40,625% 43,75% 46,875% 50% 53,125% 56,25% 59,375% 62,5% 65,625% 68,75% 71,875% 75% 78,125% 81,25% 84,375% 87,5% 90,625% 93,75% 96,875% 100% G1 3,226% 6,452% 9,677% 12,903% 16,129% 19,355% 22,581% 25,806% 29,032% 32,258% 35,484% 38,71% 41,935% 45,161% 48,387% 51,613% 54,839% 58,065% 61,29% 64,516% 67,742% 70,968% 74,194% 77,419% 80,645% 83,871% 87,097% 90,323% 93,548% 96,774% 100% M10 3,333% 6,667% 10% 13,333% 16,667% 20% 23,333% 26,667% 30% 33,333% 36,667% 40% 43,333% 46,667% 50% 53,333% 56,667% 60% 63,333% 66,667% 70% 73,333% 76,667% 80% 83,333% 86,667% 90% 93,333% 96,667% 100% M9 3,448% 6,897% 10,345% 13,793% 17,241% 20,69% 24,138% 27,586% 31,034% 34,483% 37,931% 41,379% 44,828% 48,276% 51,724% 55,172% 58,621% 62,069% 65,517% 68,966% 72,414% 75,862% 79,31% 82,759% 86,207% 89,655% 93,103% 96,552% 100% M8 3,571% 7,143% 10,714% 14,286% 17,857% 21,429% 25% 28,571% 32,143% 35,714% 39,286% 42,857% 46,429% 50% 53,571% 57,143% 60,714% 64,286% 67,857% 71,429% 75% 78,571% 82,143% 85,714% 89,286% 92,857% 96,429% 100% M7 3,704% 7,407% 11,111% 14,815% 18,519% 22,222% 25,926% 29,63% 33,333% 37,037% 40,741% 44,444% 48,148% 51,852% 55,556% 59,259% 62,963% 66,667% 70,37% 74,074% 77,778% 81,481% 85,185% 88,889% 92,593% 96,296% 100% M6 3,846% 7,692% 11,538% 15,385% 19,231% 23,077% 26,923% 30,769% 34,615% 38,462% 42,308% 46,154% 50% 53,846% 57,692% 61,538% 65,385% 69,231% 73,077% 76,923% 80,769% 84,615% 88,462% 92,308% 96,154% 100% M5 4% 8% 12% 16% 20% 24% 28% 32% 36% 40% 44% 48% 52% 56% 60% 64% 68% 72% 76% 80% 84% 88% 92% 96% 100% M4 4,167% 8,333% 12,5% 16,667% 20,833% 25% 29,167% 33,333% 37,5% 41,667% 45,833% 50% 54,167% 58,333% 62,5% 66,667% 70,833% 75% 79,167% 83,333% 87,5% 91,667% 95,833% 100% M3 4,348% 8,696% 13,043% 17,391% 21,739% 26,087% 30,435% 34,783% 39,13% 43,478% 47,826% 52,174% 56,522% 60,87% 65,217% 69,565% 73,913% 78,261% 82,609% 86,957% 91,304% 95,652% 100% M2 4,545% 9,091% 13,636% 18,182% 22,727% 27,273% 31,818% 36,364% 40,909% 45,455% 50% 54,545% 59,091% 63,636% 68,182% 72,727% 77,273% 81,818% 86,364% 90,909% 95,455% 100% M1 4,762% 9,524% 14,286% 19,048% 23,81% 28,571% 33,333% 38,095% 42,857% 47,619% 52,381% 57,143% 61,905% 66,667% 71,429% 76,19% 80,952% 85,714% 90,476% 95,238% 100% 19 5% 10% 15% 20% 25% 30% 35% 40% 45% 50% 55% 60% 65% 70% 75% 80% 85% 90% 95% 100% 18 5,263% 10,526% 15,789% 21,053% 26,316% 31,579% 36,842% 42,105% 47,368% 52,632% 57,895% 63,158% 68,421% 73,684% 78,947% 84,211% 89,474% 94,737% 100% 17 5,556% 11,111% 16,667% 22,222% 27,778% 33,333% 38,889% 44,444% 50% 55,556% 61,111% 66,667% 72,222% 77,778% 83,333% 88,889% 94,444% 100% 16 5,882% 11,765% 17,647% 23,529% 29,412% 35,294% 41,176% 47,059% 52,941% 58,824% 64,706% 70,588% 76,471% 82,353% 88,235% 94,118% 100% 15 6,25% 12,5% 18,75% 25% 31,25% 37,5% 43,75% 50% 56,25% 62,5% 68,75% 75% 81,25% 87,5% 93,75% 100% 14 6,667% 13,333% 20% 26,667% 33,333% 40% 46,667% 53,333% 60% 66,667% 73,333% 80% 86,667% 93,333% 100% 13 7,143% 14,286% 21,429% 28,571% 35,714% 42,857% 50% 57,143% 64,286% 71,429% 78,571% 85,714% 92,857% 100 12 7,692% 15,385% 23,077% 30,769% 38,462% 46,154% 53,846% 61,538% 69,231% 76,923% 84,615% 92,308% 100% 11 8,333% 16,667% 25% 33,333% 41,667% 50% 58,333% 66,667% 75% 83,333% 91,667% 100% 10 9,091% 18,182% 28,273% 36,364% 45,455% 54,545% 63,636% 72,727% 81,818% 90,909% 100% 9 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% 8 11,111% 22,222% 33,333% 44,444% 55,556% 66,667% 77,778% 88,889% 100% 7 12,5% 25% 37,5% 50% 62,5% 75% 87,5% 100% 6 14,286% 28,571% 42,857% 57,143% 71,429% 85,714% 100% 5 16,667% 33,333% 50% 66,667% 83,333% 100% 4 20% 40% 60% 80% 100% 3 25% 50% 75% 100% 2 33,333% 66,667% 100% 1 50% 100% 0 100%
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Re: Zručnost
nesmysl že by to spolu nějak souviseloStenlyJessovity píše:Protože se mi furt stává to, že když odevzdám vzácnější item... tak mi ho skoro vždy vezme, na rozdíl od běžných itemů. (Nejvíce se mi to děje teď, co mám zručku víc jak G1)![]()
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Re: Zručnost
Chyumgo píše:Ahoj, pro výpočet % na úspěšné odevzdání předmětu je tu tabulka od hráče Itako. Jestli ale mluví stoprocentně pravdu, to můžeme jen spekulovat.Itako píše:Zručnosť:
Stupeň zručnosti 1.item 2.item 3.item 4.item 5.item 6.item 7.item 8.item 9.item 10.item 11.item 12.item 13.item 14.item 15.item 16.item 17.item 18.item 19.item 20.item 21.item 22.item 23.item 24.item 25.item 26.item 27.item 28.item 29.item 30.item 31.item 32.item 33.item 34.item 35.item 36.item 37.item 38.item 39.item 40.item G10 2,5% 5% 7,5% 10% 12,5% 15% 17,5% 20% 22,5% 25% 27,5% 30% 32,5% 35% 37,5% 40% 42,5% 45% 47,5% 50% 52,5% 55% 57,5% 60% 62,5% 65% 67,5% 70% 72,5% 75% 77,5% 80% 82,5% 85% 87,5% 90% 92,5% 95% 97,5% 100% G9 2,564% 5,128% 7,692% 10,256% 12,821% 15,385% 17,949% 20,513% 23,077% 25,641% 28,205% 30,769% 33,3% 35,897% 38,462% 41,026% 43,59% 46,154% 48,718% 51,282% 53,846% 56,41% 58,974% 61,538% 64,103% 66,667% 69,231% 71,795% 74,359% 76,923% 79,487% 82,051% 84,615% 87,179% 89,744% 92,308% 94,872% 97,436% 100% G8 2,632% 5,263% 7,895% 10,526% 13,158% 15,789% 18,421% 21,053% 23,684% 26,316% 28,947% 31,579% 34,211% 36,842% 39,474% 42,105% 44,737% 47,368% 50% 52,632% 55,263% 57,895% 60,526% 63,158% 65,789% 68,421% 71,053% 73,684% 76,316% 78,947% 81,579% 84,211% 86,842% 89,474% 92,105% 94,737% 97,368% 100% G7 2,703% 5,405% 8,108% 10,811% 13,514% 16,216% 18,919% 21,622% 24,324% 27,027% 29,730% 32,432% 35,135% 37,838% 40,541% 43,243% 45,946% 48,649% 51,351% 54,054% 56,757% 59,459% 62,162% 64,865% 67,568% 70,270% 72,973% 75,676% 78,378% 81,081% 83,784% 86,486% 89,189% 91,892% 94,595% 97,297% 100% G6 2,778% 5,556% 8,333% 11,111% 13,889% 16,667% 19,444% 22,222% 25% 27,778% 30,556% 33,333% 36,111% 38,889% 41,667% 44,444% 47,222% 50% 52,778% 55,556% 58,333% 61,111% 63,889% 66,667% 69,444% 72,222% 75% 77,778% 80,556% 83,333% 86,111% 88,889% 91,667% 94,444% 97,222% 100% G5 2,857% 5,714% 8,571% 11,429% 14,286% 17,143% 20% 22,857% 25,714% 28,571% 31,429% 34,286% 37,143% 40% 42,857% 45,714% 48,571% 51,429% 54,286% 57,143% 60% 62,857% 65,714% 68,571% 71,429% 74,286% 77,143% 80% 82,857% 85,714% 88,571% 91,429% 94,286% 97,143% 100% G4 2,941% 5,882% 8,824% 11,765% 14,706% 17,647% 20,588% 23,529% 26,471% 29,412% 32,353% 35,294% 38,235% 41,176% 44,118% 47,059% 50% 52,941% 55,882% 58,824% 61,765% 64,706% 67,647% 70,588% 73,529% 76,471% 79,412% 82,353% 85,294% 88,235% 91,176% 94,118% 97,059% 100% G3 3,030% 6,061% 9,091% 12,121% 15,152% 18,182% 21,212% 24,242% 27,273% 30,303% 33,333% 36,364% 39,394% 42,424% 45,455% 48,485% 51,515% 54,545% 57,576% 60,606% 63,636% 66,667% 69,697% 72,727% 75,758% 78,788% 81,818% 84,848% 87,879% 90,909% 93,939% 96,970% 100% G2 3,125% 6,25% 9,375% 12,5% 15,625% 18,75% 21,875% 25% 28,125% 31,25% 34,375% 37,5% 40,625% 43,75% 46,875% 50% 53,125% 56,25% 59,375% 62,5% 65,625% 68,75% 71,875% 75% 78,125% 81,25% 84,375% 87,5% 90,625% 93,75% 96,875% 100% G1 3,226% 6,452% 9,677% 12,903% 16,129% 19,355% 22,581% 25,806% 29,032% 32,258% 35,484% 38,71% 41,935% 45,161% 48,387% 51,613% 54,839% 58,065% 61,29% 64,516% 67,742% 70,968% 74,194% 77,419% 80,645% 83,871% 87,097% 90,323% 93,548% 96,774% 100% M10 3,333% 6,667% 10% 13,333% 16,667% 20% 23,333% 26,667% 30% 33,333% 36,667% 40% 43,333% 46,667% 50% 53,333% 56,667% 60% 63,333% 66,667% 70% 73,333% 76,667% 80% 83,333% 86,667% 90% 93,333% 96,667% 100% M9 3,448% 6,897% 10,345% 13,793% 17,241% 20,69% 24,138% 27,586% 31,034% 34,483% 37,931% 41,379% 44,828% 48,276% 51,724% 55,172% 58,621% 62,069% 65,517% 68,966% 72,414% 75,862% 79,31% 82,759% 86,207% 89,655% 93,103% 96,552% 100% M8 3,571% 7,143% 10,714% 14,286% 17,857% 21,429% 25% 28,571% 32,143% 35,714% 39,286% 42,857% 46,429% 50% 53,571% 57,143% 60,714% 64,286% 67,857% 71,429% 75% 78,571% 82,143% 85,714% 89,286% 92,857% 96,429% 100% M7 3,704% 7,407% 11,111% 14,815% 18,519% 22,222% 25,926% 29,63% 33,333% 37,037% 40,741% 44,444% 48,148% 51,852% 55,556% 59,259% 62,963% 66,667% 70,37% 74,074% 77,778% 81,481% 85,185% 88,889% 92,593% 96,296% 100% M6 3,846% 7,692% 11,538% 15,385% 19,231% 23,077% 26,923% 30,769% 34,615% 38,462% 42,308% 46,154% 50% 53,846% 57,692% 61,538% 65,385% 69,231% 73,077% 76,923% 80,769% 84,615% 88,462% 92,308% 96,154% 100% M5 4% 8% 12% 16% 20% 24% 28% 32% 36% 40% 44% 48% 52% 56% 60% 64% 68% 72% 76% 80% 84% 88% 92% 96% 100% M4 4,167% 8,333% 12,5% 16,667% 20,833% 25% 29,167% 33,333% 37,5% 41,667% 45,833% 50% 54,167% 58,333% 62,5% 66,667% 70,833% 75% 79,167% 83,333% 87,5% 91,667% 95,833% 100% M3 4,348% 8,696% 13,043% 17,391% 21,739% 26,087% 30,435% 34,783% 39,13% 43,478% 47,826% 52,174% 56,522% 60,87% 65,217% 69,565% 73,913% 78,261% 82,609% 86,957% 91,304% 95,652% 100% M2 4,545% 9,091% 13,636% 18,182% 22,727% 27,273% 31,818% 36,364% 40,909% 45,455% 50% 54,545% 59,091% 63,636% 68,182% 72,727% 77,273% 81,818% 86,364% 90,909% 95,455% 100% M1 4,762% 9,524% 14,286% 19,048% 23,81% 28,571% 33,333% 38,095% 42,857% 47,619% 52,381% 57,143% 61,905% 66,667% 71,429% 76,19% 80,952% 85,714% 90,476% 95,238% 100% 19 5% 10% 15% 20% 25% 30% 35% 40% 45% 50% 55% 60% 65% 70% 75% 80% 85% 90% 95% 100% 18 5,263% 10,526% 15,789% 21,053% 26,316% 31,579% 36,842% 42,105% 47,368% 52,632% 57,895% 63,158% 68,421% 73,684% 78,947% 84,211% 89,474% 94,737% 100% 17 5,556% 11,111% 16,667% 22,222% 27,778% 33,333% 38,889% 44,444% 50% 55,556% 61,111% 66,667% 72,222% 77,778% 83,333% 88,889% 94,444% 100% 16 5,882% 11,765% 17,647% 23,529% 29,412% 35,294% 41,176% 47,059% 52,941% 58,824% 64,706% 70,588% 76,471% 82,353% 88,235% 94,118% 100% 15 6,25% 12,5% 18,75% 25% 31,25% 37,5% 43,75% 50% 56,25% 62,5% 68,75% 75% 81,25% 87,5% 93,75% 100% 14 6,667% 13,333% 20% 26,667% 33,333% 40% 46,667% 53,333% 60% 66,667% 73,333% 80% 86,667% 93,333% 100% 13 7,143% 14,286% 21,429% 28,571% 35,714% 42,857% 50% 57,143% 64,286% 71,429% 78,571% 85,714% 92,857% 100 12 7,692% 15,385% 23,077% 30,769% 38,462% 46,154% 53,846% 61,538% 69,231% 76,923% 84,615% 92,308% 100% 11 8,333% 16,667% 25% 33,333% 41,667% 50% 58,333% 66,667% 75% 83,333% 91,667% 100% 10 9,091% 18,182% 28,273% 36,364% 45,455% 54,545% 63,636% 72,727% 81,818% 90,909% 100% 9 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% 8 11,111% 22,222% 33,333% 44,444% 55,556% 66,667% 77,778% 88,889% 100% 7 12,5% 25% 37,5% 50% 62,5% 75% 87,5% 100% 6 14,286% 28,571% 42,857% 57,143% 71,429% 85,714% 100% 5 16,667% 33,333% 50% 66,667% 83,333% 100% 4 20% 40% 60% 80% 100% 3 25% 50% 75% 100% 2 33,333% 66,667% 100% 1 50% 100% 0 100%
No já nevím. Oficiální řetězec by měl vypadat jinak. Řetězec se dá spočítat, je to vždy 100 (%) / maximálná počet předmětů.
100/40=2,5% šance na úspěch že uzná 1. předmět z G10 na P
100/39=2,56% šance na úspěch že uzná 2. předmět z G10 na P
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100%3=33,3% šance na úspěch že uzná 38. předmět z G10 na P
100%2=50% šance na úspěch že uzná 39. předmět z G10 na P
100%1=100% šance na úspěch že uzná 40. předmět z G10 na P
Takhle se dá spočítat kompletní řetězec.
kousek tabulky by tedy měl vypadat takto:
Lv | 1.item |2.item | 3.item |4.item
---P| 2,50% | 2,56% | 2,63% | 2,70%
G10| 2,56% | 2,63% | 2,70% | 2,77%
G09| 2,63% | 2,70% | 2,77% | 2,85%
G08| 2,70% | 2,77% | 2,85% | 2,94%
G07| 2,77% | 2,85% | 2,94% | 3,03%
Když nesete 4. item z G10 na P, systém vám vždy nalosuje šanci 2,7%, že vám předmět uzná. Ale Itako v tabulce počítá "skutečnou šanci".
Na P vzal základních 2,5% na uznání a násobí to počtem pokusů (donesených předmětů), takže 4.předmět na P počítá jako 2,5% + 2,5% +2,5% + 2,5% = 10% šance na uznání.
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