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Zručnost

Příspěvek od StenlyJessovity » pon 19. led 2015 21:48:35

Ahoj chtěl bych se zeptat jak funguje systém odevzdávání itemů u Makamita pro zručnost. 8-)
Je to celé jen o náhodě nebo ne? Protože se mi furt stává to, že když odevzdám vzácnější item... tak mi ho skoro vždy vezme, na rozdíl od běžných itemů. (Nejvíce se mi to děje teď, co mám zručku víc jak G1) :suspect: :suspect: :suspect:

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Re: Zručnost

Příspěvek od Chyu » pon 19. led 2015 21:54:02

Ahoj, pro výpočet % na úspěšné odevzdání předmětu je tu tabulka od hráče Itako. Jestli ale mluví stoprocentně pravdu, to můžeme jen spekulovat.
Itako píše:
Zručnosť:
ObrázekStupeň zručnosti1.item2.item3.item4.item5.item6.item7.item8.item9.item10.item11.item12.item13.item14.item15.item16.item17.item18.item19.item20.item21.item22.item23.item24.item25.item26.item27.item28.item29.item30.item31.item32.item33.item34.item35.item36.item37.item38.item39.item40.item
G102,5%5%7,5%10%12,5%15%17,5%20%22,5%25%27,5%30%32,5%35%37,5%40%42,5%45%47,5%50%52,5%55%57,5%60%62,5%65%67,5%70%72,5%75%77,5%80%82,5%85%87,5%90%92,5%95%97,5%100%
G92,564%5,128%7,692%10,256%12,821%15,385%17,949%20,513%23,077%25,641%28,205%30,769%33,3%35,897%38,462%41,026%43,59%46,154%48,718%51,282%53,846%56,41%58,974%61,538%64,103%66,667%69,231%71,795%74,359%76,923%79,487%82,051%84,615%87,179%89,744%92,308%94,872%97,436%100%
G82,632%5,263%7,895%10,526%13,158%15,789%18,421%21,053%23,684%26,316%28,947%31,579%34,211%36,842%39,474%42,105%44,737%47,368%50%52,632%55,263%57,895%60,526%63,158%65,789%68,421%71,053%73,684%76,316%78,947%81,579%84,211%86,842%89,474%92,105%94,737%97,368%100%
G72,703%5,405%8,108%10,811%13,514%16,216%18,919%21,622%24,324%27,027%29,730%32,432%35,135%37,838%40,541%43,243%45,946%48,649%51,351%54,054%56,757%59,459%62,162%64,865%67,568%70,270%72,973%75,676%78,378%81,081%83,784%86,486%89,189%91,892%94,595%97,297%100%
G62,778%5,556%8,333%11,111%13,889%16,667%19,444%22,222%25%27,778%30,556%33,333%36,111%38,889%41,667%44,444%47,222%50%52,778%55,556%58,333%61,111%63,889%66,667%69,444%72,222%75%77,778%80,556%83,333%86,111%88,889%91,667%94,444%97,222%100%
G52,857%5,714%8,571%11,429%14,286%17,143%20%22,857%25,714%28,571%31,429%34,286%37,143%40%42,857%45,714%48,571%51,429%54,286%57,143%60%62,857%65,714%68,571%71,429%74,286%77,143%80%82,857%85,714%88,571%91,429%94,286%97,143%100%
G42,941%5,882%8,824%11,765%14,706%17,647%20,588%23,529%26,471%29,412%32,353%35,294%38,235%41,176%44,118%47,059%50%52,941%55,882%58,824%61,765%64,706%67,647%70,588%73,529%76,471%79,412%82,353%85,294%88,235%91,176%94,118%97,059%100%
G33,030%6,061%9,091%12,121%15,152%18,182%21,212%24,242%27,273%30,303%33,333%36,364%39,394%42,424%45,455%48,485%51,515%54,545%57,576%60,606%63,636%66,667%69,697%72,727%75,758%78,788%81,818%84,848%87,879%90,909%93,939%96,970%100%
G23,125%6,25%9,375%12,5%15,625%18,75%21,875%25%28,125%31,25%34,375%37,5%40,625%43,75%46,875%50%53,125%56,25%59,375%62,5%65,625%68,75%71,875%75%78,125%81,25%84,375%87,5%90,625%93,75%96,875%100%
G13,226%6,452%9,677%12,903%16,129%19,355%22,581%25,806%29,032%32,258%35,484%38,71%41,935%45,161%48,387%51,613%54,839%58,065%61,29%64,516%67,742%70,968%74,194%77,419%80,645%83,871%87,097%90,323%93,548%96,774%100%
M103,333%6,667%10%13,333%16,667%20%23,333%26,667%30%33,333%36,667%40%43,333%46,667%50%53,333%56,667%60%63,333%66,667%70%73,333%76,667%80%83,333%86,667%90%93,333%96,667%100%
M93,448%6,897%10,345%13,793%17,241%20,69%24,138%27,586%31,034%34,483%37,931%41,379%44,828%48,276%51,724%55,172%58,621%62,069%65,517%68,966%72,414%75,862%79,31%82,759%86,207%89,655%93,103%96,552%100%
M83,571%7,143%10,714%14,286%17,857%21,429%25%28,571%32,143%35,714%39,286%42,857%46,429%50%53,571%57,143%60,714%64,286%67,857%71,429%75%78,571%82,143%85,714%89,286%92,857%96,429%100%
M73,704%7,407%11,111%14,815%18,519%22,222%25,926%29,63%33,333%37,037%40,741%44,444%48,148%51,852%55,556%59,259%62,963%66,667%70,37%74,074%77,778%81,481%85,185%88,889%92,593%96,296%100%
M63,846%7,692%11,538%15,385%19,231%23,077%26,923%30,769%34,615%38,462%42,308%46,154%50%53,846%57,692%61,538%65,385%69,231%73,077%76,923%80,769%84,615%88,462%92,308%96,154%100%
M54%8%12%16%20%24%28%32%36%40%44%48%52%56%60%64%68%72%76%80%84%88%92%96%100%
M44,167%8,333%12,5%16,667%20,833%25%29,167%33,333%37,5%41,667%45,833%50%54,167%58,333%62,5%66,667%70,833%75%79,167%83,333%87,5%91,667%95,833%100%
M34,348%8,696%13,043%17,391%21,739%26,087%30,435%34,783%39,13%43,478%47,826%52,174%56,522%60,87%65,217%69,565%73,913%78,261%82,609%86,957%91,304%95,652%100%
M24,545%9,091%13,636%18,182%22,727%27,273%31,818%36,364%40,909%45,455%50%54,545%59,091%63,636%68,182%72,727%77,273%81,818%86,364%90,909%95,455%100%
M14,762%9,524%14,286%19,048%23,81%28,571%33,333%38,095%42,857%47,619%52,381%57,143%61,905%66,667%71,429%76,19%80,952%85,714%90,476%95,238%100%
195%10%15%20%25%30%35%40%45%50%55%60%65%70%75%80%85%90%95%100%
185,263%10,526%15,789%21,053%26,316%31,579%36,842%42,105%47,368%52,632%57,895%63,158%68,421%73,684%78,947%84,211%89,474%94,737%100%
175,556%11,111%16,667%22,222%27,778%33,333%38,889%44,444%50%55,556%61,111%66,667%72,222%77,778%83,333%88,889%94,444%100%
165,882%11,765%17,647%23,529%29,412%35,294%41,176%47,059%52,941%58,824%64,706%70,588%76,471%82,353%88,235%94,118%100%
156,25%12,5%18,75%25%31,25%37,5%43,75%50%56,25%62,5%68,75%75%81,25%87,5%93,75%100%
146,667%13,333%20%26,667%33,333%40%46,667%53,333%60%66,667%73,333%80%86,667%93,333%100%
137,143%14,286%21,429%28,571%35,714%42,857%50%57,143%64,286%71,429%78,571%85,714%92,857%100
127,692%15,385%23,077%30,769%38,462%46,154%53,846%61,538%69,231%76,923%84,615%92,308%100%
118,333%16,667%25%33,333%41,667%50%58,333%66,667%75%83,333%91,667%100%
109,091%18,182%28,273%36,364%45,455%54,545%63,636%72,727%81,818%90,909%100%
910%20%30%40%50%60%70%80%90%100%
811,111%22,222%33,333%44,444%55,556%66,667%77,778%88,889%100%
712,5%25%37,5%50%62,5%75%87,5%100%
614,286%28,571%42,857%57,143%71,429%85,714%100%
516,667%33,333%50%66,667%83,333%100%
420%40%60%80%100%
325%50%75%100%
233,333%66,667%100%
150%100%
0100%

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Re: Zručnost

Příspěvek od HonzaM » pon 19. led 2015 23:26:12

StenlyJessovity píše:Protože se mi furt stává to, že když odevzdám vzácnější item... tak mi ho skoro vždy vezme, na rozdíl od běžných itemů. (Nejvíce se mi to děje teď, co mám zručku víc jak G1) :suspect: :suspect: :suspect:
nesmysl že by to spolu nějak souviselo :)

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Re: Zručnost

Příspěvek od Malchus » úte 20. led 2015 12:15:39

Chyumgo píše:Ahoj, pro výpočet % na úspěšné odevzdání předmětu je tu tabulka od hráče Itako. Jestli ale mluví stoprocentně pravdu, to můžeme jen spekulovat.
Itako píše:
Zručnosť:
ObrázekStupeň zručnosti1.item2.item3.item4.item5.item6.item7.item8.item9.item10.item11.item12.item13.item14.item15.item16.item17.item18.item19.item20.item21.item22.item23.item24.item25.item26.item27.item28.item29.item30.item31.item32.item33.item34.item35.item36.item37.item38.item39.item40.item
G102,5%5%7,5%10%12,5%15%17,5%20%22,5%25%27,5%30%32,5%35%37,5%40%42,5%45%47,5%50%52,5%55%57,5%60%62,5%65%67,5%70%72,5%75%77,5%80%82,5%85%87,5%90%92,5%95%97,5%100%
G92,564%5,128%7,692%10,256%12,821%15,385%17,949%20,513%23,077%25,641%28,205%30,769%33,3%35,897%38,462%41,026%43,59%46,154%48,718%51,282%53,846%56,41%58,974%61,538%64,103%66,667%69,231%71,795%74,359%76,923%79,487%82,051%84,615%87,179%89,744%92,308%94,872%97,436%100%
G82,632%5,263%7,895%10,526%13,158%15,789%18,421%21,053%23,684%26,316%28,947%31,579%34,211%36,842%39,474%42,105%44,737%47,368%50%52,632%55,263%57,895%60,526%63,158%65,789%68,421%71,053%73,684%76,316%78,947%81,579%84,211%86,842%89,474%92,105%94,737%97,368%100%
G72,703%5,405%8,108%10,811%13,514%16,216%18,919%21,622%24,324%27,027%29,730%32,432%35,135%37,838%40,541%43,243%45,946%48,649%51,351%54,054%56,757%59,459%62,162%64,865%67,568%70,270%72,973%75,676%78,378%81,081%83,784%86,486%89,189%91,892%94,595%97,297%100%
G62,778%5,556%8,333%11,111%13,889%16,667%19,444%22,222%25%27,778%30,556%33,333%36,111%38,889%41,667%44,444%47,222%50%52,778%55,556%58,333%61,111%63,889%66,667%69,444%72,222%75%77,778%80,556%83,333%86,111%88,889%91,667%94,444%97,222%100%
G52,857%5,714%8,571%11,429%14,286%17,143%20%22,857%25,714%28,571%31,429%34,286%37,143%40%42,857%45,714%48,571%51,429%54,286%57,143%60%62,857%65,714%68,571%71,429%74,286%77,143%80%82,857%85,714%88,571%91,429%94,286%97,143%100%
G42,941%5,882%8,824%11,765%14,706%17,647%20,588%23,529%26,471%29,412%32,353%35,294%38,235%41,176%44,118%47,059%50%52,941%55,882%58,824%61,765%64,706%67,647%70,588%73,529%76,471%79,412%82,353%85,294%88,235%91,176%94,118%97,059%100%
G33,030%6,061%9,091%12,121%15,152%18,182%21,212%24,242%27,273%30,303%33,333%36,364%39,394%42,424%45,455%48,485%51,515%54,545%57,576%60,606%63,636%66,667%69,697%72,727%75,758%78,788%81,818%84,848%87,879%90,909%93,939%96,970%100%
G23,125%6,25%9,375%12,5%15,625%18,75%21,875%25%28,125%31,25%34,375%37,5%40,625%43,75%46,875%50%53,125%56,25%59,375%62,5%65,625%68,75%71,875%75%78,125%81,25%84,375%87,5%90,625%93,75%96,875%100%
G13,226%6,452%9,677%12,903%16,129%19,355%22,581%25,806%29,032%32,258%35,484%38,71%41,935%45,161%48,387%51,613%54,839%58,065%61,29%64,516%67,742%70,968%74,194%77,419%80,645%83,871%87,097%90,323%93,548%96,774%100%
M103,333%6,667%10%13,333%16,667%20%23,333%26,667%30%33,333%36,667%40%43,333%46,667%50%53,333%56,667%60%63,333%66,667%70%73,333%76,667%80%83,333%86,667%90%93,333%96,667%100%
M93,448%6,897%10,345%13,793%17,241%20,69%24,138%27,586%31,034%34,483%37,931%41,379%44,828%48,276%51,724%55,172%58,621%62,069%65,517%68,966%72,414%75,862%79,31%82,759%86,207%89,655%93,103%96,552%100%
M83,571%7,143%10,714%14,286%17,857%21,429%25%28,571%32,143%35,714%39,286%42,857%46,429%50%53,571%57,143%60,714%64,286%67,857%71,429%75%78,571%82,143%85,714%89,286%92,857%96,429%100%
M73,704%7,407%11,111%14,815%18,519%22,222%25,926%29,63%33,333%37,037%40,741%44,444%48,148%51,852%55,556%59,259%62,963%66,667%70,37%74,074%77,778%81,481%85,185%88,889%92,593%96,296%100%
M63,846%7,692%11,538%15,385%19,231%23,077%26,923%30,769%34,615%38,462%42,308%46,154%50%53,846%57,692%61,538%65,385%69,231%73,077%76,923%80,769%84,615%88,462%92,308%96,154%100%
M54%8%12%16%20%24%28%32%36%40%44%48%52%56%60%64%68%72%76%80%84%88%92%96%100%
M44,167%8,333%12,5%16,667%20,833%25%29,167%33,333%37,5%41,667%45,833%50%54,167%58,333%62,5%66,667%70,833%75%79,167%83,333%87,5%91,667%95,833%100%
M34,348%8,696%13,043%17,391%21,739%26,087%30,435%34,783%39,13%43,478%47,826%52,174%56,522%60,87%65,217%69,565%73,913%78,261%82,609%86,957%91,304%95,652%100%
M24,545%9,091%13,636%18,182%22,727%27,273%31,818%36,364%40,909%45,455%50%54,545%59,091%63,636%68,182%72,727%77,273%81,818%86,364%90,909%95,455%100%
M14,762%9,524%14,286%19,048%23,81%28,571%33,333%38,095%42,857%47,619%52,381%57,143%61,905%66,667%71,429%76,19%80,952%85,714%90,476%95,238%100%
195%10%15%20%25%30%35%40%45%50%55%60%65%70%75%80%85%90%95%100%
185,263%10,526%15,789%21,053%26,316%31,579%36,842%42,105%47,368%52,632%57,895%63,158%68,421%73,684%78,947%84,211%89,474%94,737%100%
175,556%11,111%16,667%22,222%27,778%33,333%38,889%44,444%50%55,556%61,111%66,667%72,222%77,778%83,333%88,889%94,444%100%
165,882%11,765%17,647%23,529%29,412%35,294%41,176%47,059%52,941%58,824%64,706%70,588%76,471%82,353%88,235%94,118%100%
156,25%12,5%18,75%25%31,25%37,5%43,75%50%56,25%62,5%68,75%75%81,25%87,5%93,75%100%
146,667%13,333%20%26,667%33,333%40%46,667%53,333%60%66,667%73,333%80%86,667%93,333%100%
137,143%14,286%21,429%28,571%35,714%42,857%50%57,143%64,286%71,429%78,571%85,714%92,857%100
127,692%15,385%23,077%30,769%38,462%46,154%53,846%61,538%69,231%76,923%84,615%92,308%100%
118,333%16,667%25%33,333%41,667%50%58,333%66,667%75%83,333%91,667%100%
109,091%18,182%28,273%36,364%45,455%54,545%63,636%72,727%81,818%90,909%100%
910%20%30%40%50%60%70%80%90%100%
811,111%22,222%33,333%44,444%55,556%66,667%77,778%88,889%100%
712,5%25%37,5%50%62,5%75%87,5%100%
614,286%28,571%42,857%57,143%71,429%85,714%100%
516,667%33,333%50%66,667%83,333%100%
420%40%60%80%100%
325%50%75%100%
233,333%66,667%100%
150%100%
0100%

No já nevím. Oficiální řetězec by měl vypadat jinak. Řetězec se dá spočítat, je to vždy 100 (%) / maximálná počet předmětů.

100/40=2,5% šance na úspěch že uzná 1. předmět z G10 na P
100/39=2,56% šance na úspěch že uzná 2. předmět z G10 na P
.....
100%3=33,3% šance na úspěch že uzná 38. předmět z G10 na P
100%2=50% šance na úspěch že uzná 39. předmět z G10 na P
100%1=100% šance na úspěch že uzná 40. předmět z G10 na P
Takhle se dá spočítat kompletní řetězec.

kousek tabulky by tedy měl vypadat takto:

Lv | 1.item |2.item | 3.item |4.item
---P| 2,50% | 2,56% | 2,63% | 2,70%
G10| 2,56% | 2,63% | 2,70% | 2,77%
G09| 2,63% | 2,70% | 2,77% | 2,85%
G08| 2,70% | 2,77% | 2,85% | 2,94%
G07| 2,77% | 2,85% | 2,94% | 3,03%

Když nesete 4. item z G10 na P, systém vám vždy nalosuje šanci 2,7%, že vám předmět uzná. Ale Itako v tabulce počítá "skutečnou šanci".
Na P vzal základních 2,5% na uznání a násobí to počtem pokusů (donesených předmětů), takže 4.předmět na P počítá jako 2,5% + 2,5% +2,5% + 2,5% = 10% šance na uznání.

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